Preserve the clipping mask appearance

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when use clipping mask, want preserve @ least fill , stroke of container object. freehand did this. cool if adobe analyzed freehand did better illustrator.

 

as is, i'm forced either recolor container object, or make copy of juts contain second shape, adds layer clutter, , has disadvantage of getting in way of primary shape.

another complaint clipping masks: want able select them point of area. happens if put shape inside another, can select clipping mask if click on contained shape, or on container's borders or center. if have blank space inside, can't select or drag whole thing clicking on it.

 

hope wasn't confusing.



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